Sang-e Mar Mar ~ Episode 24 Review

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Sang-e Mar Mar is all kinds of fab but first and foremost it serves as a much-needed reminder of the quality of creative talent going to waste as drama industrialists insist on meddling in the creative process, churning out one nonsensical project after another. Every once in a while, however, there is one that slips through the cracks and leaves its mark – Sang-e Mar Mar for one.

Here, be it the writer or the director or the cast – all have come together brilliantly and made this a memorable serial. Mustafa Afridi’s writing is taut but nuanced, Saife Hasan has his finger on the pulse of the story and the actors are living their characters… viewers like me are thrilled. But is all this too good to be true? The classic bait and switch tactic – missing scenes from last week’s promo – has me concerned. Keeping my fingers crossed that the powers-that-be will not stretch this one like elastic.

For those waiting for a resolution to the dilemma of Aurang’s marriage – who, when, how – this episode did not do much other than add yet another twist. Palwasha might look like a quintessential seedhi saadhi but she too is as much a product of the system as any of the other characters, hence the taunt to Bano last week and now this barely veiled warning to Shirin. This girl knows what she wants and is not ready to give up quite as yet.

Palwasha is not the only one. Bano too is not planning on going down so easily. The way she put forth her reasons, for opposing Aurang and Palwasha’s marriage, was absolutely applause worthy. She is astute and knows her emotionally weakened father’s sore spots, hence couching her argument in terms of children and lack thereof. Earlier, in a softened tone, asking Palwasha to go visit her mother, later her malicious glee seeing her sister in law cry, her impatience with her mother and finally the dance of joy – all very well done! Uzma Hassan was all kinds of brilliant in this episode.

On great acting, Sania’s Shamim is fabulous, imbuing life in a character that barely exists on paper. She sees Gulistan Khan making yet another mistake and warns him, but after spending a lifetime with him she knows he will learn on his own time. A man can only change so much in so short a time. Things that had just started to normalize are being put in jeopardy again by the decision of an emotionally wrought man. Her beloved son is being pulled and pushed in every which direction and all she can do is pray and hope for the best. One wonders if and when this woman’s trials will ever be over?

Aurang is as yet unaware of the drama going on behind his back. He thought his relationship with his father was now of equals, but as events have shown that was a mistake. His father is a complicated man and knowing him is not an easy task. He gives on one hand but takes away on the other. He granted Aurang the freedom to decide the future of his family business, but when it came to his personal freedom, choosing a life partner, that is a right that Gulistan kept for himself. Father knows best is his mantra. What happens when Aurang finds out has me looking forward to next week. Meanwhile, I shall go back and watch that excellent scene between the father and son. Mikaal Zulfiqar is very impressive as Aurang.

As for the father in question, Gulistan Khan, what a performance by Nauman Ijaz! From angry to remorseful, from adamant to tearful, we saw so much on display today, but so fine tuned was his performance that it all seemed organic and effortless. The scene with the Afghan refugee was fabulously written and enacted as was the followup. I do wonder about his extreme reaction to dancing. Is it something to do with his past? Was his father involved with a dancing girl? Or was it him? I hope HUM will stop its unfunny games and give us the answer to this riddle next week. And please, could somebody lower the volume of the background score? Thank you.

All in all, an intriguing and engrossing episode. While there is much to applaud here, I think Mustafa Afridi’s writing is really the key ingredient and I am thoroughly enjoying the way he’s knit this very textured story together, every scene has a reason and purpose. And on that, I wonder what if any role will Kaleem Ullah’s marble tiled bathroom play in episodes to come … any guesses?

Now, looking forward to reading your take!

Written by SZ~

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152 replies

  1. Was waiting for your take. Absolutely amazing
    More later but the way durkhane mum said InshaAllah spontaneously instead of astaghfirullah… gave me huge laugh n scared my baby😂😂 sorry couldn’t resist sharing this.

    Loveed thoroughly this epi

  2. That was a terrific episode! I loved the opening scene with Bano and Gulistan Khan. She knows how to push just the right buttons, doesn’t she? I have this suspicion that her father knows she’s manipulating him, but he’s too grief-stricken at this point to really do anything about it. Plus, at this stage, father and daughter both want the same thing where Palwasha is concerned.

    Noman Ijaz absolutely owned this episode, from his encounter with the poor Afghan to his conversation with Shirin about the vast desolation of his spirit, to his angry reaction to Bano’s dancing. The best bit was his tortured goodbye to Aurang though. I nearly cried when the son came back to embrace the father, because Aurang wants his father’s love so much, and Gulistan Khan so needs that balm for his soul right now. The whole scene was so well played by both NI and Mikaal Zulfiqar.

    I’m just feeling really bad about Palwasha. I understand that Shamim and Shirin are feeling guilty, but the poor girl deserved better than to be iced out like that. After all, she’s still family and Shamim at least should have been straight with her. Also, I like Bano as a character but she sows so much destruction in her wake that I really hope she gets her comeuppance and it comes from Palwasha herself. It was sort of gratifying to see Palwasha do more than just wallow in self-pity though.

    I’m guessing Durkhane is getting married sooner rather than later? Will that bring Shirin back home for the wedding? Will Pari push her off a cliff before she can go back to her mor pankh-filled dreams?

  3. Great review SZ . Father and son scene was very emotional . ( reminded me of my time going to collage .it was very far from my home) I was also thinking about dance that GK might have some kind of trauma . I did not understand, why Shamim didnot tell Palwasha the truth . Shireen is feeling guilty , and can’t do anything. It was wonderful episod loved it .

  4. Wow! What a brilliant episode!
    Yes they might’ve stretched it a bit and the promised confession seems to have been delayed, but I was gripped throughout the ep… as soon as Bano asked for mera liye bhi dua all the way to her dance and GK’s reaction.. How she was sweet talking and manipulating her way round the coversation, even I wasn’t quite sure where she was going with it all.. Bano is quite something! But isn’t it funny how Bano thinks that she has won and perhaps the first time she actually managed to succeed in something , but little does she know that it had nothing to do with her .. decision had been made way before she put the issue forward. and it was nothing to do with Palwasha, Torah, herself or her efforts… Loved loved Uzma. She and NI owned this ep!!!
    Ufffff NI! Wasn’t he phenomenal?! Effortless – yes thats the word!.. effortless brilliance shining through! They way he was slightly bent and slow in his prayer, the walk, the talk.. yes the scene with the refugee was amazing.. the khaalipann (almost) monologue with Shirin .. the discussion with Shamim..
    The father-son scene was another one.. I loved NI’s restraint acting.. Yes GK needed that balm but we can see the ”anaa” making his way back.. ”Maan” ke liye aa jaaya karna.. and the way he turned around and walked off before he lost his composure was quite telling..
    Re the refugee scene : I went back and watched it again.. I didn’t get it at first but after having watched his khalipann speech it hit home.It was the irony of someone rejoicing on his khali gharr almost made him feel like as if he was being mocked.. I think there is def a connection here with (and maybe whatever happenned to) Torah’s mother.. He is also going on abt khaali dil too.. So I wonder..

    I know I’m totally off the track here but I wonder if Torah’s father had died and maybe the reason why GK is pushing for Aurung + Shirin shadi is to do with his regret and what happenned to his brother’s widow.. Akhir he is in full-on redemption mode now.. And if not isn’t it ironic that he would do whatever he did to his bhabhi yet he expects Arung to not itna be-hiss ke bhai ki izzat ko izzat na de.. On a separate note wasn’t that interesting that GK was busy cleaning out his ear in that scene yet he’s not prepared to listen to anything when it comes to Shirin and Aurung..

    I wonder if GK’s time is near.. and if Aurung will indeed see him before that..

    Re Shirin and Palwasha.. now they are both aik se berh ke aik if u ask me.. Shirin with her jo aap ka faisla although asal main inside I’m dying with excitement with the thought of finally getting Arung – AGAIN! This girl doesn’t learn.. pehle bhi that was the reason she ended up here.. Aur GK Shamim donon kp patti parha di.. miss goody two shoes.. Palwasha – what a snarky, sarci note that was!

    Re turkhane’s susral wala scene : that seemed a bit out of place. didnt work for me at all.. re how it ties in : ”Sang e marr marr” ka bathroom lol thats the only connection I can think of lol

    • Lol FA, Sang e marr marr” ka bathroom!? That note from Palwasha had such an acid tone!

      NI, SS are so fab with their body language, they just know how to get into the skin of their characters. Uzma’s dance of glee was well done as well…

      Loved your comment 🙂

    • @FA. Hhaahah the way you write so maze se.. I seriously love it. Had a good laugh specially at shirin and palwasha bit you wrote..

      Indeed all actors were flawless particularly in this epi..

      The note by palwasha was zor ka thapar dheere se lage

  5. One of the best episodes Ive seen of any drama in recent times and a great review to go with it! I was waiting for your review evr since the episode aired as whenever ive read your reviews we are generally on the same page. Despite being on the slower side in terms of the story moving forward, it was still a brilliant episode with some great acting and writing. It is very rare that a drama gets us so involved in its characters. The three scenes that stood out for me were the bano gulistan one, the aurang farewell scene and shirins revelation to palwasha. I agree that every scene was meaningful and like you hope that HUM wouldn’t stretch this too much. Although i fear that it is already happening. NI and SS are phenomenal. I think the way everything is being shown, in the end it wouldn’t matter who gets married to aurang as long as everyone gets closure.

    • @SI: haina! I’m with you on the Aurang shaadi track .. I know many are watching just for that but for me it’s just a side issue .. there are so many more things at stake here and as you rightly point out, a resolution to those is a must otherwise all of this becomes meaningless

  6. Dear SZ – sorry for the late reply. Firstly, thanks so much for the review. I haven’t yet watched Pinjra, I’ll leave my comment in that post in the next day or so 🙂

    I liked how you’ve analysed the key characters and their motivations. You are so right about the description of SeMM as “the one that got away”, but as you have noticed, the hand of Hum is still visible – the distinctly slower pace and the promos versus actual episode mismatches have started again (it happened earlier as well and then they were good for a little while, but here they go again…). Still, I agree that this is one of those dramas where every scene and every dialogue has meaning and either points to something that happened in the past or something about to happen in the future.

    Bano’s dialogue with GK threw me off – I never expected her to be so careful and planned with her words – I thought she was more of a tantrum queen and she’d just throw yet another tantrum to get her way, But she must have realised that GK has rebuffed her the last few times (right from the time she did that whole blame game on Torah and Gulalai), hence this “sophisticated” attack on GK’s sensibilities. Not that GK was taken in one bit, but her purpose was achieved so that’s that. GK’s words that Bano had always been this sort of a discord-sowing, bitter and angry person, was insightful. I wonder why Torah agreed to marry her? Or may be, as with all things GK, Torah never really had a say in it…

    Hats off to FA for noticing GK’s body language in that scene. NI is so natural that these things never come off as put-on or very “visible”, they are so effortless!

    Shirin – what to say, that mor pankh just got so heavy didn’t it? I always feel that when someone is thinking up reasons to justify their actions, it is a sure sign that their conscience is pricking them. All that “maine kuch nahi kiya” etc was least convincing – not to her, not to Palwasha, Thinking about it, Shirin’s weakness was clear when she discussed the matter with Durkhane last week – if Shirin really wanted to say no, she would have not discussed the decision with D, especially knowing what D’s answer was likely to be – she would have just told D that she refused to marry Aurang and that would have been the end of the matter. It’s another matter (albeit an important one) that she is not thinking about what Aurang would want, his feelings, etc.

    Palwasha – for someone who is very possessive of her “relationship” with Aurang, it is not surprising that she wrote that acid-dripping letter to Shirin. None of these ladies go down without a fight. It will be interesting to see what she tells her brother and how it impacts on Bano and Shirin. Personally I am not too keen on this love triangle, it’s only interesting as far as a point to move the plot forward.

    The best scenes this week for me were the ones where GK assaults the poor refugee (how frail was he and how menacing was GK in that scene!) and the following scene where GK has a monologue in front of Shireen. This guy (GK) has so many skeletons in his closet. He has so many layers and so many incidents of the past that have made him the man he is. His violent reaction to any dancing is pointing to something in the past – my guess is, it must be to do with his father may be? Shamim is getting to know newer things about him every passing day – he continues to surprise her in many ways and in many ways he just refuses to change. Does she really want to know this GK? Does it matter now at all? Probably only as far as it affects her son’s well-being. Otherwise she is neither interested nor has the energy to know more.

    Re: Durkhane and Kalim Ullah – I hope in all her “maalik” talk, D doesn’t spill the beans about the Gohar episode. I wouldn’t want her to have an “accident” on the new SeMM ka bathroom…

    OK, may I please use this space to advertise a few vacancies in and around Ghari Baraan? Please feel free to add to the list.

    1. A good doctor (preferably Obs/Gyn) specialising in women’s health. Every time I look at Pari, I keep thinking she needs proper care, an ultrasound, etc given her history of miscarriages. And poor Gulalai seemed to be having osteo problems (which the doctor in the city diagnosed as anemia – I wasn’t too sure about that).

    2. A good marriage counsellor – just Bano and Torah are enough to keep this person busy.

    3. A properly trained psychatrist – the list of clients is endless – probably every one in the village and its environs will qualify to attend – I can almost see Shireen on the chair, saying “Today I again had a day dream about Aurang doctor…”.

    4. A well-stocked library with good quality publications – these ladies have too much time on their hands, it won’t hurt them to get reading. But please, let’s not stock up on romantic novels or digests – even without it the girls seem to be doing quite well in this matter.

    5. A private investigator (like Mma Ramotswe of the Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency) – someone with empathy and skill, who will actually use their brains and find out who’s behind the recent spate of murders and killings in this area. And once they find the culprit, probably send them to number 3 above.

    Sorry, written too much, most of it gibberish,..

    • @VZ: Heyy! How are you VZ? So good to read your comment here, and in the previous posts. Missed youuu. And I loved what you wrote, it’s so funny! Now I can’t get the image of Shireen on the psychiatrist’s couch out of my mind lol 😉

      Re. Shirin: Her conversation only revealed her guilty conscience. She looks to Durkhane for validation, to Daa Jee to lay the blame on and to Palwasha to give her unasked-forgiveness. Can she even go through with marriage to Aurang, specially after seeing his aggressive reaction? I think she’ll back out.

      Or maybe Palwasha will die or something, commit suicide after learning her brother is a murderer? Then her love will once again be legitimized and she’ll get her happily-ever-after with Aurang and the Tere Naam wala por ka par :p

      I’ll take you up on your offer and add to the list:

      6. The Trigger-Happy Shooting Range (I have even got a name ready lol) – a free-for-all hang-out for:
      a) the men to vent out their aggression which they otherwise channel towards inappropriate and often hapless targets such as hens and, well, other men.
      b) the women to vent their frustrations resulting from thwarted ambitions which they otherwise direct exclusively towards other women and never hens.

      • Lol Nashra, it’s been so much fun reading this stuff. You’ve written so eloquently about Shirin. I think they needed her to say yes to get married to Aurang otherwise Torah was ready to give up his side business of taking revenge and settle down to domestic bliss with Bano.

        I can’t quite guess where the writer is going with this story, which itself is refreshing, otherwise most of the stories these days are so predictable, with the same old clichéd characters, settings, dialogues.

          • hahaha Ufff too much fun here!! side business – only business & domestic bliss with Bano hahaha – now that is hillarious! Can you imagine any kind of bliss with Bano!
            @VZ yes isn’t that interesting that with so much already revealed in the longest OST ever – we still don’t know where the story is heading – and yes we are all sitting out listening to this tale #qissakhwani

            • Tells you that a good story and a good story teller are never out of fashion. This good old stuff of strong story, well-directed and acted is what has been missing for so long…

        • Hahaha hilarious! Bano is more likely to make mincemeat of Toora and then live blissfully with it rather than with the Toora which is alive and kicking lol! 😉

          Oh yes, they needed fuel to drive that other plot forward and Shirin’s ‘yes’ at least does that, even if it doesn’t make the marriage happen. Durkhane’s not-so-shareef Shareefullah Lala has already given Toora yet another card to play with if the occasion calls for it, and it seems that it will. Durkhane’s ‘malik’ scene of the preview also makes some sense, she’ll probably be called to stand as witness to Shirin’s chastity again and for real this time. That other reveal when she told her brother the truth was probably just to throw us off, make us think it was done and dusted when it isn’t.

          About the fact that the serial is unpredictable, yes! It makes it so much better. What with hackneyed story lines where you could tell the ending 30 episodes away from it, and the novel-based serials, serials like this have become a novelty.

    • @VZ Aray wah! ROFL @ job vacancies – you sure do come up with some really good ones!!
      Well Garhi Baran is a land of opportunities – Seeing that GK won’t be around for long, so it won’t be ”his” garhi baran for long.. It will be soon snapped up by a major property developer who’s had his eye on this place for a long time.. The project will include :
      – a hospital.. Aray they need a poore ka poore hospital! A GP clinic, maternity home and psychiatric clinic and an A&E (accident and emergeny) unit to start off with in phase 1 of the development!..
      – Seeing Aurung burnt the lot and has no plans to carry on the khandani sood ka business , Garhi Baran now really needs a real bank!! I don’t really trust Safiullah, so this would come in handy for Pari too.. The precious mor ka parr can be carefully locked away in a locker,..
      – Sound proofing contractor/company has a great scope here..
      – telecom companies are missing a great opportunity.. Let’s see which mobile company gets there first.. Forget the mobiles, I don’t think I’ve seen a phone either..
      – I would’ve said a police station / local court – but seeing that govt just legalised jirgas they pbbly won’t need that anymore.. but then again can we trust Aurung to make any decision..? I think Torah will take over as the authority .. which makes me think God forbid if it ever comes down to Shirin’s ”faisla” in the jirga..
      – So as you an see this will be a place full new vacancies – I think they will need an full fledge employment agency.. lol (waise i dont think any one has any real job/employment around here apart from safiullah and the driver guy)

      • oh btw Torah is already in talks with the developer… He has also negotiated for a social club in the development and he can provide the licensed soundtrack..
        Sange marr marr tiles will be used throughout the development.. I think they are planning to call it sange marr marr ka shehr..
        One of the terms that Torah put forward was that it will be open to refugees and immigrants (not just the locals – they wil need that open policy to fill all the vacancies as locals don’t seem interested in employment..) .. well atleast it wont be khaali any more.
        Ok I’m getting carried really away with this.. lol #toomuchfun

        • Oh FA, you’re just unstoppable, I haven’t laughed so much in such a long time. Hubby was rolling his eyes watching, so I had to read it all out to him. Taaliyaan….Uff, too good yaar…

    • @VZ: All of these are so great! But I honestly can’t wait until Twitter comes to Ghari Baran. I mean, I can only imagine the havoc that Torah, Pari and Bano can wreak via just a few well-placed sub-tweets. 😉

  7. @SZ and everyone: Hello, hello! So good to be back here, finally! How are you all? Missed this place a lottt 🙂

    A friend kept asking me to watch SeMM but i kept putting it off, maybe cuz of the promo I saw of SS cleaning NI’s slippers which made me think this was another run-on-the-mill show, and partly for lack of time. But then last week I checked DRNR and saw that you had reviewed it. Tou bas, when i learned you had given it your approval i decided to watch the first episode and was hooked! This is one amazing serial. About time too for something worth our while to be on tv.

    First off, I am floored by everyone’s acting. Everyone is so good in their roles it’s unbelievable. Sania Saeed and Noman Ijaz are at the top of their game. They have added so much depth to their characters. Seriously, they have it down pat with the little mannerisms and body language, it’s like watching real people, not characters. The writer has done a great job penning this script and thankfully no one, not even a side character, has spoiled it with weak or over acting. They have actually made it come alive and how rare is that.

    Mikaal is very good as Aurang and Kubra Khan is impressive, is this her first serial? I don’t recall watching Paras Masroor before either, but is he great as Toora Khan or what? He deserves a special mention and one or five awards for putting forth such a human depiction of a man like Toora. Uzma Hassan and Kaif Ghaznavi are both brilliant as cunning would-be strategist and cunning strategist, respectively. So were the two dead brothers. I mean the actors. The one playing Gauhar looked appropriately creepy. With his Tere-Naam-hairstyle-gone-awry, he managed to give out such bad vibes it’s a wonder even Durkhane fell for his antics. I miss both Omair Rana’s Safiullah and Tipu Sharif’s Saif Ur Rahman. Both thought they were so smart but were all the time being played like puppets by people a whole lot smarter than their impetuous selves. Noman Hasan is so funny as Bulbul! His scenes provide the best comic relief. He’s named appropriately too, am sure he’s going to sing like a canary one day and bring about the downfall of the manipulator that is Toora. Who’s the best manipulator tho? For me it’s Toora, Pari and Bano, in that order.

    This is a wonderful serial and has come after such a long, long drought that I have pretty much turned blind to its inevitable flaws. Thanks for pointing out the shortcomings SZ, cuz I get carried away when left on my own lol. As you or someone else in the comments has mentioned, the dream sequences of the broad daylight have to go asap. Plus the eavesdropping. I have lost the count of the times it has been used as a plot device, honestly. It seems like no one ever told the characters that eavesdroppers never hear good of themselves lol.

    Re episode 24: All the actors were brilliant, as I have come to expect. Noman Ijaz conveyed the brokenness of Daa Jee so well, once again. The one other time for me was when Gauhar died, when he came into his room after looking at the dead body of his son and broke down. He brings tears to one’s eyes. The grief seems so genuine, so heartfelt that it translates itself through the screen. It’s such an exception, which is what makes it all the more valuable. The atmosphere of his home has visibly turned darker and gloomier after Saifullah and Gullalai’s deaths.

    And look at Shireen! I mean she dares to make a scapegoat of Daa Jee and then also get away with it! Well, almost. Palwasha was so mean in the note lol. So that was the reason why Palwasha had to know how Shireen came to become married to Saifullah in that deal. It wasn’t just cuz Aurang couldn’t keep the news to himself and was also not for the sake of the now-curtailed womance between the two. Imagine her joining forces with Toora and the destruction that that pairing would bring!

    But one a serious note, i don’t think Palwasha is going to do anything real other than write menacing notes. The resident Toora-Khan – he is on his way to becoming a distinct trope, lol – is more than enough to avenge all misfortunes of his family, real or perceived. I feel that Bano and Toora deserve each other, much like Rhett and Scarlett of Gone With the Wind deserved only each other. If Bano hadn’t been blinded by Toora’s skin colour they’d have been so happy together, each celebrating the other’s deviousness and evilness.

    I think this is too long a comment to read. My apologies, I got carried away. Apparently, DRNR sends my commenting-self into an overdrive. Either that or I take the blog title too literally 😉

    • @Nashra Re Shirin : We called her a ghunni the other day.. And she proved it in this ep.. the way she hides behind Gk and then later Shamim.. magar woh bhi kia kare – because she’s always daydreaming, she doesn’t really have enough time to plot or plan like Bano or Pari.. she tends to just go with the flow naa..
      re the long comments and the overdrive : ur not alone there .. we all suffer from that lol.. but isn’t it so much fun!

      • @FA: Hahahah! Ghunni, lol! I confess I’ve been immensely more benevolent and accepting towards Shirin’s human weakness (read: selfishness) than you all 😉

        You see, for me it just makes her character so much more human than it would’ve been had she not snapped up the carrot that was dangled before her. That would have bestowed superhuman qualities on her character when a superwoman she is not. I..may be..making excuses for her but then, i do like her. Compare her to the other females lol. Even Palwasha is not the goody two shoes she had managed to look like until this episode. I guess you could call this latest installment an attempt to break the pristine image of these two female characters. Good job on the writer’s part, I’d say. No? 😉

  8. Thought I’d mention this other point that I noticed. The dialogues of this serial. Apart from the fact that I find them well-written, I also like how effectively the language and idiom of the play reflect the culture and context in which the play is based.
    For instance, the offhand use of the term ‘hawaii firing’ in a regular, everyday conversation displays/emphasizes the gun culture of the region and its acceptability without ever actually taking it up as a topic of social commentary in the serial.
    Then the unending casual references to Kabul/Afghanistan betray the close cultural ties between the two regions. That is why it seemed somewhat ironic when Gulistan Khan referred condescendingly to the same nation in this episode in the refugee scene. Even though they have so much in common, from language to cultural and social norms, poor Afghanistan becomes a target of scorn just because it is war-torn. Sad.
    Then, if I recall correctly, GK once mentioned women and mares in the same breath, revealing the entrenched misogyny; this basically just reinforced one of the themes of the play minus the verbosity and melodrama which would’ve accompanied it had it been any other serial.
    Then there is the almost-continuous use of the terms ‘ghairat’, ‘haya’, ‘beghairat/beghairtii’, even in friendly banters as an expression of camaraderie like between Shirin and Durkhane. This demonstrates very aptly what appears to be the primary preoccupation of the people of the region, both males and females: the concept/practice/custom of izzat/ghairat. It’s so routine and automatic that it makes it all the more striking for people like us who maybe (i know i don’t) use it with the same frequency that they do. I mean to say that it’s very telling.
    This is all I can remember right now, will add more examples if they come to mind.
    All this must’ve happened in other plays, right…? It obviously didn’t register with me because I don’t remember such effective use of language as a mirror of society before. In that sense, can’t we say that the language, though Urdu, is very much specific to the context? I mean, we can’t uproot this serial from Swat and say, place it in Karachi, and expect everything to make sense in the same way.

    • Dear Nashra, it’s good to hear from you. Big hug 🙂

      I enjoyed your take on SeMM. This point you make about the language, the phrases, the idioms they use is so true. That’s why the location doesn’t feel like a tourism ad – as FA was pointing out in one of the earlier reviews. You feel that this story belongs in this place, these characters belong here.

      Afghanistan/Kabul is mentioned more than other local cities goes to show how with all the people from there coming in/going back, the war there and its impact on the valley are far more accessible/real to these people than say happenings in Karachi. This kind of peppering the dialogues with local flavour without it appearing forced is so enjoyable to watch/hear (also because the cast are so good). Mustafa Afridi is so good here. The way he balances out philosophical rambling with dark humour, satire, irony and good old slapstick comedy is a real treat.

      • From what I gather he is from that area so the story is very familiar to him and the characters very real, and that is what is making a world of difference when you compare it to a DeD which really could’ve been anywhere in the world ..

        • Yes SZ, it feels like he’s sitting us all down for some good old story telling and doing a really good job of it. It feels like someone telling their village tale, the characters are so real…

        • I know right. You can’t really know a language unless you’re a speaker, and you can’t really know a people, their thought process and the like, unless you know their language. Here thankfully the setting is not merely the pretty gift wrap of a terrible present, nor is anything else a useless prop. Everything pretty much gels in to create a coherent narrative, without slips and inconsistencies that marred DeD from the start.

          What other serials has this writer written? I actually thought it was his first drama.

          • No, no.. not his first serial at all .. how could you forget our fave Firaaq.. weren’t you here then? Uff those were hilarious threads as well .. he’s also done Aseerzadi and now his Yeh Raha Dil is ready to air on Hum .. he’s also done telefilms etc .. and a few other serials, I think. But see this is the difference when a writer is left alone to write.. if you remember firaq then you know how the story went a crazy 180..

            • Oh. No, i didn’t watch Firaq or any of the other serials. My mother watched Aseerzadi tho, if i remember correctly. Never liked it by the looks of it and now I’m wondering if it was good like this one too. Ye Raha Dil with Yumna Zaidi? Don’t like the promos. Will only watch if you review it 😉

              I hope they leave him well enough alone so he can give this serial the ending that it deserves. It would be so disappointing if they stretch it out interminably or ruin it in any other way for the sake of their stupid TRPs.

            • Oh, I thought you were on those threads .. we, well FA and I primarily, had a whale of a time with things that we learnt from that drama … you have to watch to learn how AIDS is diagnosed, where to keep laundry and what not!

      • @VZ: Thank you! Lots of love to you ❤

        I'm so glad to see that you felt and noticed the same thing. I think SZ's reviews have brought us together on the same or similar frequency lol. I personally started noticing so much after i started reading SZ's reviews. They made the serial-watching experience richer than it ever was before.

  9. Such amazing comments by you all.. Agree with each and everyone.. Your comments make it more insightful and interesting. But tell me something guys.. Since i havent watch previous epis.. Whats with torah mother n gk story?

    • Hi @Rehmat! How are you? 🙂

      The story is that one day, Toora’s mother saw the rain falling in the night and was engulfed with nostalgia for her past life and native country, where it rains a lot. So she started dancing in the rain as expression of maybe her longing for her country. GK saw her doing that and was enraged. He then broke both her legs in a fit of ghairat. She most probably was never taken to any doctor (we saw the same happen years later with Gullalai). She was bedridden for the rest of her life and a few years later died, it appears, young. This is the reason why Toora became vengeance personified.

    • Rehmat, watch episode 3, it has Torah’s back story. But basically his mother was from Bangladesh and she did her best to fit in here in Ghari Baraan. GK was never quite accepting of her and one day he saw her dancing to Bengali songs and lost it. He beat her mercilessly (the same rage when he saw the Afghan person dancing) and young Torah watched this helplessly. His mother died soon afterwards and Torah blames GK for her death. Watch that episode, it’s chilling.

      • VZ.. you are right … missing earlier episodes means you didnt get the base right but was too lazy to watch 15 episodes lol
        But thanku so very much for heads up on epi 1 n 3.. will certainly watch those.. n i was thought torah story was revealed much later but in 3 epi itself means it was quite fast paced initially

        • I started watching the first few eps.. ActuaIly amazing how the eps that turned me off at the beginning were so much more interesting now.. I still watched them ffwd mode but it was really interesting to see how these characters have evolved now.. Alot of the stuff that pbbly seemed / sounded stupid now makes so much more sense!

          What I found really interesting was that Gk doesn’t really seem like a person who has just killing his father. Shamim made it clear that she was all up for Gauhar’s shadi with Palwasha and Gauhar’s opinion did not matter whatsoever! You can see why and how she felt about GK then..

          @VZ I haven’t come across bit they mentioned Russia. Any idea where that was?

          So Torah’s dad had married this Bengali girl from Dhaka and had kept it a secret from his family. He brought her here after the fall – 4 years after their marriage… Apparently (or according to Shamim) GK’s main reason for hating her was that his brother married her in secret…

          • Wah sounds interesting.. sorry for asking but torah’s father died before his mother? As in where was he when gk did tht brutal act to torah mother.. i better watch but just to come over my curiosity

            • I dont think they have mentioned that.. They showed him when he had brought his family to the village, but nothing after that (in whatever I’ve watched so far).. But something tells me he had died soon afterwards.. shamim mentioned that Baran Khan was the only one who had accepted her in the family – he was shown playing with young Torah…

          • FA, the talk about Russians was in one of the episodes that followed Gohar’s death (when Aurang ends up in Saif-ur-Rehman’s village to do some investigating). In that episode I think Kalim Ullah (of the SeMM Ka bathroom fame) wanted to mention the fact that there was a girl in the story behind Gohar’s death, but the village elders stop him. I wonder how things will pan out now that he is married to Durkhane.

            Thanks for refreshing my memory about Torah’s parents. Was Torah already born then? I vaguely remember a kid in Torah’s mother’s arms – that would mean Torah was around 14 when his mother died 😦 Palwasha was around 3-4 years old, so Torah’s father must have been alive atleast until 1985-86…

            • Oh Acha!
              btw I was surprized to find out Durkhane’s Kaleemullah was after Shirin! The now-almost-dead mami wanted shirin no matter what! So if Kaleemullah knew about the girl behind Gohar’s death .. Durkhane’s shadi with Kaleemullah.. interesting dynamics.. mmm so now it makes sense why we are seeing so much of Durkhane’s susral..
              Re Torah : yes he was a small child when he arrived..must’ve been 3 or so (since they’d been married for 4 years).. How do we know he was alive until 1985-86? did they leave a clue abt that?

            • FA, when Torah’s mother died in 1989, Palwasha was around 3-4 years old ( they show her crying and I guessed her age, plus Torah practically brought her up). If Palwasha was 3-4 years old in 1989 her dad must’ve been alive atleast until 1985-86 na? What do you think?

      • VZ: true that abt the first ep .. but remember how long that mor pankh story went on! Uff that very nearly turned me off this serial ..and that MZ was ostensibly playing the same kind of character as in DeD .. ofcourse it all turned out very diff later, but the deja vu factor was really strong then..

        And speaking of DeD, anyone checked out Balu Mahi? I want to go watch but it’s not playing in Massachusetts and we are snowed in so can’t go very far ..

        • SZ, yes that mor pankh thingy was going on for a bit, but I saw it as them setting the scene for Shirin’s obsession with Aurang and how long it’s been brewing in her mind, with Durkhane adding fuel as and when the topic came up ( of course 99℅ of the time the only topic these girls talked about).

          In a way, just as Torah is obsessed with revenge, Shirin is obsessed with Aurang. Let’s see where this obsession will take her.

          In the starting few episodes, the pace, the dialogues etc were just spot on and very refreshing. DeD was so melodramatic even from episode 1 and the dialogues were nothing new. But I see what you mean about the déjà vu! Thankfully, SeMM has got things right most of the time…

  10. Wah wah!! Yahan tau full on party shuru hai! 💃🏽So much fun! I’m too busy laughing to write anything right now! You guys are hilarious! 😂

    Nashra: bibi bara intezar karwaya aap ne .. magar phir bhi shukar hai aaye tau – welcome back!

    SI: Fab to hear from you .. glad you joined in on this thread and shared your take .. detailed response in a bit.

    VZ: glad you are fine in fact better than fine abd in full form! I’m so spoiled that if I don’t hear from any of you guys in a few I get concerned ke ya tau I wrote complete nonsense or be worried that something else is up .. silly, I know but all of you are very dear to me .. 😘

    Baqi baatein break ke baad!

    • @SZ: Aur main kahun aap ne bhi barra intezar karwaya tou? 😉

      It’s so good to be back, not just reading but also participating in the discussions. It’s always a treat to read your reviews and then analyse the various aspects of the story line with friends here. Thank God this serial came along when it did!

      You’re too sweet! And you’re very dear to us too *hugs* 🙂

    • SZ, sorry for the delay. I was caught up with a few things and couldn’t watch on time and ended up getting delayed. Still haven’t managed to watch Pinjra. Running a bit late this week…

  11. Everyone seems to be a bit confused as to why there are no mobile phones lol. I read some comments regarding the temporal setting of the play in one of the previous posts, too.

    I was confused too. Cellular devices and other technology – no tv, no telephone, no computer, no facebook, no insta, no selfie, no nothing – all seem very conspicuous by their absence lol. I wondered if it was merely by chance or if it was deliberate so that the viewers won’t be able to confine the serial to a specific time period, so it could acquire, i don’t know, a universal, timeless aspect lol. Discarded the former thought cuz it seemed too peculiar not to have anyone use any of these things deliberately if it indeed was the current age. Khair.

    The serial is indeed placed a little back in time. Did you guys read the kutba (epitaph) of the elder daa jee’s tombstone? It says he died in the year 2000. So that means that the serial has now entered or is about to enter the year 2001. The year of the US invasion of Afghanistan, hence the refugee issue.

    Also, didn’t you all feel there was a lot of reference to Russia (Roos) in the first few episodes? That made me think that it probably was about late 1980s or something, when the Russia-Afghanistan war was on. They also referred to the two countries in a manner which made me think that the war was ongoing. But then, it turns they were into the 21st century all right.

    And Toora’s mother died in 1989. At age 39 (born in 1950). Yes, i memorised it, all for you people :p

    • Yes agree about the timeline Nashra. I think Torah’s parents come back possibly during our just after the 1971 war, after winding up the family business there. And thanks for the dates 🙂

      There was a lot of mention of Russia in the earlier dialogues which threw me off as well, as I thought it was the 80s but then I noticed these dates – there’s lots of clues the writer is leaving isn’t he? We were wondering on one of the previous threads if there will be a time leap to bring it to 2016/7…

    • @Nashra Thanks for the dates. I didn’t really follow this one closely at the beginning.. only got into it after The younger brother’s murder.. So these dates really put things it in perspective.. but like u mentioned it does kinda still have that timeless feel..
      Re Afghan refugees : the Afghan refugees had been moving to Pakistan ever since the Russian invasion.. so it wasn’t just at the time of US invasion. 2000 was also the time of the talibans & the clamp down on music & dance – hence the reference to khaali shehr and gliyan in Afganistan along with the naach gaana.. yes @VZ I too think that Torah’s family would’ve had to flee at the time of Dhaka fall and the refugee crisis created at that time..
      I think I might watch those earlier episodes properly now for more clues..

      • FA, you know when I watched GK and his aversion to dance I thought he was a one-man Taliban! The early episodes were much tauter IMO. After Gohar’s death, the pace slackened a bit.

        Waise, neither GK nor Aurang remembers that Safiullah wasn’t present when GK gave his word that Saif-ur-Rehman wouldn’t be killed. Wonder what would lead them to remember that…

      • @FA: You’re right. But then I thought that the older refugees, the ones displaced by the Soviet-Afghan War, would be properly assimilated into the society of the region by the year 2000. If they didn’t, even with all the cultural similarities, then that, too, displays an interesting aspect of the place and its tribal custom. It basically just cements the point that Toora’s mother’s story line showed, that people there do not really accept and own outsiders as their own, even if they live their for ages. I may be wrong, but that is how it seems to me.

        • @Nashra what I meant was that there was a constant influx of refugees throughout that time and the borders were porous. Remember even during the time between after the soviets left the region and the US invasion there was civil war. Many ppl evacuted during Taliban era in particular.
          Actually this discussion reminded me of ‘the thousand splendid suns’ – and the way the timeline of this war-torn country was weaved into the story.
          Re the acceptance of the outsiders : that’s very interesting actually. Yes Afghan pashtun refugees had a much better chance of being accepted in those regions than anyone else from anywhere else … Torah’s mother was a complete alien and she didn’t stand a chance – with a different language, customs, clothes.. And ofcourse the colour of her skin.. Remember the ladies who couldn’t understand how someone that ‘kali’ could be a Musalman lol (when torah’s mother initially arrived)
          Going on a complete tangent here but it also reminded me of a conversation we had with a bedouin on one of our trips to Jordan and he explained how the Arab beduoins are /were all one ppl until the day the boundries were drawn and they were divided into nations and countries.. And how his own family is now split up in various countries.. Isn’t it amazing what a mere geographical boundry can do..

        • Nope, that’s the interesting part about refugee cultures, which are very closed and inward looking ( lots of complex reasons for that) , where differences matter a lot more than similarities and it’s all about keeping the “home culture” alive. If you keep up with news about various refugee settlements around the world that one thing that really pops out .. it does get watered down as generations go by but it’s still us vs them. Hence even though similar cultures still difference.
          The Bengali assimilation is completely different question.. that girl was completely diff and with a very diff set of values ( dance and singing valued and ok for girls vs the very conservative Pakhtuns) and there is also the deep seated bias abt color .. and generally too in Pakistan there is a whole thing abt Bengalis based on our uneasy history with them .. lots of layers here which are beautifully incorporate in the storytelling.

          • @SZ re refugee culture : defo! I grew up in islamabad and I saw the refugees pouring into the city. They had integrated into the society well enough with their established businesses but they were still one community – with their own tandoors, the restaurants, salons, tailors.. throughout the city.. But is it just a refugee culture? Don’t we see this with eg. our desi communities settled in the west too?

            • true, but this happens more so because of the socio-political dynamics of the situation, where they do not come by choice, they are not invited in and are sort of living off of the “charity” of the host country, where they are also not looked upon as welcome … In the course of my academic I have met and heard so many stories of how refugees were settled in barracks and camps outside of city limits or in unsettled areas … and we know similar things happened with Afghan refugees and Palestinian and so many more … where they were settled in their own “cities” know so many refugee campers who also there is always the thought that this is temporary because they will go back home, one which they did not leave by choice but were forced out of .. a very different situation than when ppl immigrate … bottom line many reasons but the biggest is the question of choice .. they do not chose to come, they have no choice in where they are settled, and the lack of closure abt returning home ..

            • @SZ yes agree but i think its more about the ‘unease and feeling unwelcomed’ more so than the choice. Im seeing it in the UK now where we have an influx of the Eastern European immigrants.. Ofcourse coming here by choice but they are exactly not welcomed, and how they have created their community within a community..

            • 🙂 Lets just table this very political discussion for jab hum kabhi milenge … too involved to discuss on a drama thread, abhi tau more fun thinking abt which of the two ladies is gonna have a more happening insta acct … 😉

          • Yes SZ. That Bengali assimilation issue is quite deep-rooted (I remember you pointed us to Kamila Shamsie’s Kartography in one of the Main Sitara threads). Think how loosely the word “Bengali maasi” is used in our dramas even to this day, for example.

            And the colour bias of course – everyone from Shamim to Bulbul have rubbed that on Torah’s face. Even his name Torah (black) shows that probably from a very young age he has been set apart from the others because of his colour. Yet another reason why he aligns himself more with his mother.

            • Oh, you read Kartography? We should discuss it some place sometime .. but yes that had one of the more interesting takes on Pakistanis’ uncomfortable relationship with Bengalis .. oh and the phrase bhooke bangali still lingers on … such is the tyranny of language and culture…

            • Yes SZ, I read Kartography on your recommendation, would love to discuss with you and other friends. We need a book corner here 🙂

            • Would be nice .. I just dont know if we can sustain it.. abhi tau Im just getting back in the routine of writing regularly. its amazing how quickly one gets out of the rhythm of things..

            • SZ, re: book corner, didn’t mean just now, but something for the future when we hit a dry spell of dramas may be. And that too not as a regular feature but one-offs

            • @VZ and SZ: Oh it would be so amazing to have a book corner here! Just the thought of it is extremely exciting. SZ, please be democratic and let us vote on it. If we get enough votes then you’ll have to do as we say, even if you do it a year or two later from now 😛

          • This is all very interesting! I, too, love how subtly the writer has infused the main plot with little socio-historical details like these without becoming preachy about them or letting them overtake the narrative. This adds yet another dimension to the personalities of characters. As you all have mentioned here, Toora’s mother was victimized as much because of her race, ethnicity and nationality as for her gender.

            Consequently, Toora too, in my opinion, feels and has been made to feel like an outsider on account of his being half-Bengali. Also, notice how Bano snaps at Palwasha calling her a ‘Bangalan’ so condescendingly. And when Toora’s mask slipped, as someone else said here, at mention of being away from one’s country it looked as if it wasn’t just for his mother that he was sad; i felt that he too, in some ways, feels like he’s away from home. I don’t think home really exists for him, as a real place. Maybe he has inherited the position of a social outcast of sorts from his mother. Don’t know if I’m making any sense lol, but can he be experiencing in some degree the trans-generational trauma of the exile that his mother had to face? Add to that his physical appearance, and he comes off as someone who not just looks like his mother but also strongly identifies with her more than he ever can with his father’s side.

            Some of his comments too seemed to indicate a deep dislike for the ways of the Pakhtuns. Like when Palwasha comments that everyone cries only for Safiullah and that no one even mentions Gullalai, he speaks with contempt about how no one ever remembers a woman after she’s dead. I don’t recall any other Pakhtun character questioning the justness of their culture except for maybe Aurang who’s educated and has seen the world as it exists outside of Garrhi Baran. Maybe it’s because Toora has little to no loyalty to the people and their customs that makes it easier for him to play with anything and everything for his personal revenge and gain. He’s just not rooted enough in the village for him to respect, uphold and guard its traditions. Either that or he’s very forward-looking lol. Is anything beyond his mother and sister sacred to him? I think not.

    • Excellent job with the timeline! So if Torah’s mother came to Ghari Baran in the early 70s and died in 1989, she kept her dancing secret for a long time before she gave in. I wonder what prompted her to break out into dance that one night? Was she just at the end of her tether? Was she trying to get over her husband’s death? Speaking of which, what happened to her husband?

      • RK, we still haven’t been told what happened to Torah’s father.

        I don’t think his mother kept the dancing secret, it was one of the things she gave up to integrate herself better. She did play music to the kids and she was shown dancing with them too. Torah has all her tapes and listens to Bengali music on his tape, and remembers her dancing to it.

        As for what happened on that night, his mother saw the rains and was reminded of her home and couldn’t resist dancing and was caught out by GK.

        • What is GK’s problem with dancing exactly? Does he just see it as beghairat behavior or something? He was pretty upset with the poor Afghan dancing too, and I don’t think Bano’s dance of glee is going to be forgiven so quickly either.

          Speaking of “beghairat,” I have now heard that word more times on SeMM than in my entire life before, lol.

          • Surely you’ve heard Fawad Khan saying it in, what else, Humsafar? 😉

            I think this sort of dancing and music is seen as taboo in a conservative society like GB. But that said, GK seems to have a violent aversion to dancing, so we’ll see if there’s a backstory to that…A man with lots of secrets our GK…

            • Haha! Yes, of course! How could I forget?! It was probably lost in a flood of “mummy, yeh aap kya keh rahin hain” feels. 😉

            • Hehe .. for FK it was always ba-ghairat which pretty much made it opposite of what it was intended to convey .. but hamare FK tau bas FK hain 😉

    • Ranjan: glad you are enjoying this party.. but in between I hope you got all your queries answered .. feel free to jump in with your input on what all Garhi Baran needs in terms on new facilities!

  12. Random musing:
    Garh/Garhi=village/smallish settlement + Baran=Rains -> Village of Rains
    If read in literary terms -> rains = tears then Garhi Baran =village of tears ..

    what an appropriate setting for this saga!!

  13. re: book corner, didn’t mean just now, but something for the future when we hit a dry spell of dramas may be. And that too not as a regular feature but one-offs

    Love this idea! I just started reading a Manto anthology, fwiw, and I’d love to talk about that here (given time and inclination, of course).

    • Manto is a personal fave!! I have been holding off on Manto because there is the Sarmad TV serial about his short stories and Id always thought we’d do a discussion of those then .. what a man what a mind what a genius!!!

      • I’m new to Manto (and indeed to literature from the subcontinent, although I’ve started reading more recently).

        I knew there was a Sarmad-directed Manto film (which I haven’t been able to find anywhere), but not a TV series. I’ll have to watch that! I’m looking forward to the Nandita Das movie as well.

    • RK, what’s the name of the anthology? Thanks 🙂

      SZ, yes Manto the genius who’s kept hidden from us by our parents! Manto books were so contraband…

      • It’s called “Manto: Selected Stories” and is a translation by Aatish Taseer. It was on Amazon.

        Since I don’t know/read Urdu, I’m pretty much stuck with the English version, and I don’t know if some of the magic is lost in translation. I’ve had that experience with other writers in translation, so keeping my fingers crossed here.

        • There are other/popular/better translations out there .. I use a collection called Black Milk by Hamid Jalal, another one called Bitter Fruit, an anthology A Manto Panorama.. all should be in Amazon .. another source, probably cheaper as well is AbeBooks .. it’s an online book store .. much like Amazon .. has a huge collection ..
          Yes, almost all his stuff has been transliterated in Hindi 🙂 also there are some good English translations of popular stories like Toba Tek Singh, Thanda Gosht and some other available online .. journal of urdu studies has some ..

      • Just realized there’s probably plenty of Manto transliterated into Hindi, which I can actually read. Why didn’t I think of that before. /facepalm

  14. I feel like I’m interrupting the discussion here, but haye! Am I the only one who feels the writer is being a bit unfair in his portrayal of Shireen? This episode seemed to be painting her as too selfish for agreeing to Daa Jee’s proposal, when I feel that she is only human and cannot be blamed for any more tragedies that may unfold. I suppose I do have a soft corner for her, but she has been through so much and I didn’t really see Aurang as very ‘interested’ in Palwasha initially. In fact, he was fine with marrying Shireen as well when that was suggested as part of the deal over Gauhar’s death. His liking for Palwasha seems to have developed following her overtures towards him. Khair, just thought I’d put in my two cents…

    • I think the problem with Shirin is that–of all the female characters on SeMM–she’s the one with the least agency. Everything happens to her and there’s little that happens to her that she’s actually responsible for. Even Palwasha and Durkhane are more active change agents in their own lives than she is.

      To that extent, I think she’s actually a very sympathetic character, and the writer has tried his best to make her empathetic. I’m still Team Palwasha because I just like her better as a character, and because I just really don’t want Torah Khan to have another thing to hold over GK’s family.

    • @SK I think all the characters are grey and very human and thats the beauty of this story. Noone’s the ultimate evil and certainly noone is an angel – we are given supporting backstories and rarional reasoning for what and who they all are – and the audience is free to decide whoever they prefer for whatever reason… That’s why there is so much fun discussing their different shades..

  15. I’m new here, but love your reviews!

    Feel like I’m interrupting the discussion here, but haye! Am I the only one who feels the writer is being a bit unfair in his portrayal of Shireen? This episode seemed to be painting her as too selfish for agreeing to Daa Jee’s proposal, when I feel that she is only human and cannot be blamed for any more tragedies that may unfold. I suppose I do have a soft corner for her, but she has been through so much and I didn’t really see Aurang as very ‘interested’ in Palwasha initially. In fact, he was fine with marrying Shireen as well when that was suggested as part of the deal over Gauhar’s death. His liking for Palwasha seems to have developed following her overtures towards him. Khair, just thought I’d put in my two cents…

    • @zzz83: hello and welcome 🙂 Nah! You’re not interrupting at all… rather the more the merrier!
      Lol! So you’re team Shirin, eh? I’m glad she’ll be happy to know you’re in her corner. For me personally both these girls should really be doing other, more productive if you will, things in life other than squabbling over Aurang. Waisey bhi why is Aurang being portrayed as such a prize? And why should a marriage be the only way to alleviate Shirin’s suffering? Even Palwasha for that matter…

      And beyond the story, I agree with RK and FA that both these female characters have their pros and cons leaving viewers free to decide whoever .. Your namesake @SK has put her dilemma across so well . Ab let’s see who the writer picks ultimately …

      And now since you’ve put your two cents in once you must keep doing so .. after all P needs her camp cheering her on 😜
      Finally, We already have an SK so could I please request you to keep your zzz83 nick in order to avoid confusion… thanks!

  16. Great review and lovely episode, keeps you hooked throughout with the beautiful writing ,dialogues and acting. The fact thst people are viewing shireen either as negative or then another bechari means she has effectively given enough nuance which is awesome. Anyone could easily have done what she’s done thinking they deserve it after all the horrible things they’ve been through through no fault of her own but she also is knowingly coming between two people in love so rhe dilemms has actually been beautifully done.
    I know everything has been authentic but I would love to have seen more pushto and maybe because am from that part of the woods it has been actually difficult to watch it in Urdu when they are acting pashtoon in every other way , and I totally understand of course it had to be in Urdu obviously but sometimes when they are talking I half expect them to break out in Pashto especially when they start off with a pushto word lol. Love all the names, have a few family members with those authentic names lol. Definitely beautifully filmed though and of course Norman and Sania are the stars

    • @SK: arrey bibi you’ve been missed 😘
      I agree with you on missing the Pushto flavor ( one of the reasons why I loved that Afghani song on the radio) but then I think back to DeD, where the accents would come and go at will, and I’m glad they didn’t go that route.
      And yes, very nicely pointed out abt Kubra Khan and her nuanced acting as Shirin ..

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